How Long Will Trump Be In Power?
Frequent 2GreenEnergy critic writes: “I’m very disturbed (by) your ranting against the President-elect….The US is not some unstable banana republic where presidents are removed from office by coups and unlawful processes.”
Sorry you’re disturbed. Obviously, I’m not advocating a military coup or some such nonsense. My bet: he won’t last two years until he’s impeached on one or more of the legal matters I raised. As I’m sure you’re aware, I’m not alone in the belief. Here are more than 9.5 million web pages on the subject.
You write that (objecting to Trump) is “pointless and even destructive.” I would say the precise opposite; accepting Trump as the leader of the free world is destructive in the extreme.
As to the outcome here, we’ll have to wait and see.
We must resist Trump as stridently as possible, but it is not in our best interest to try to impeach him unless he uses his position as president to do something clearly treasonous.
Impeaching the president should be related to the job… not just a partisan sniping over a non-job-related misdemeanor.
We need to stop him from doing as much damage as we can. Oppose every stupid and harmful policy. Oppose every completely unfit appointment. Work to protect America as best we can as a fascist imbecile tries to tear the country apart for personal profit…
But we shouldn’t stoop to the level of the republicans. If we start doing purely partisan bullshit like impeaching the president for some tiny gotcha style nonsense or seeking to deliberately wreck the country just to embarrass him… then we will have become just as worthless and wretched and hateful and pathetic and despicable as they are.
I would rather die then allow myself to become like them.
I agree completely; I’m not talking about rank partisanship. But from what I can see from here, he’s clearly in the process of profiting from his numerous conflicts of interests, and getting poised for some bald-faced violations of international law. I’m betting that something along these lines is going to get him removed. I can’t remember who said this recently, but I totally believe it: what happens over the next few years is going to make Watergate look like a walk in the park.
Like you, I am disturbed by Mr Trump’s charecter, his continual picking of fights, vindictiveness, lies, and scandals, but at the same time, he has been elected as per the (possibly flawed) US electoral law.
How long before he does something which gets him impeached, arrested, declared insane?
Perhaps he will prove sane, effective, and competent. Its possible!
For now, I would be incined to give him the benefit of whatever small doubt remains and wait a short while for him to do something that gets him removed by constitutional means – hopefully not by the second amendment “right to bear arms”
Here’s where this unravels for me: I too am disturbed by what you refer to as “Mr Trump’s character, his continual picking of fights, vindictiveness, lies, and scandals.” That’s why I find it very difficult to (again in your words) “Give him the benefit of whatever small doubt remains.” Maybe I need to chill out on this, but I honestly can’t reconcile the two viewpoints; I can’t bring myself to support people like that.
Btw, I would think it would be virtually impossible to assassinate a U.S. president with today’s security technology; I don’t think he’s in danger of that.
Most of a president’s power is dependent on his ability to influence other people. The widespread disrespect that Trump experiences will greatly limit his power regardless of whether or not he is impeached. It may be that the greatest danger of a Trump presidency will be a very limited ability of the federal government to do anything at all, assuming that the ability to launch nuclear missiles will not be given to him.
I strongly suspect that the reason some people voted for him was not to cause him to be elected but rather to cause Mrs. Clinton to be elected by a smaller margin. Unfortunately, that’s not the way it worked out.
I tend to go with what Glen said resist , try to modify , reduce negative impact but doon ‘t get consumed with Blind and Potentially backfiring actions.
Can’t lower ourselves to the other side …..find real teachable moments to awaken perhaps the tumpsters fragil support among a vocal segment of population.
the blind followers have such a emotional tie in to the lies that Trumper con ned them on that only direct bad acts by him will stain his image. Things have to stick….so some out rageous business profit deal or really bad foreign policy decisions are the types of things that could stick….he is like reagan he has a teflon aura around him.
he coned 52 % of white women to vote for him overlooking his dark charater and sexist treatment of many many women in his own words.
They still voted for him. yes there are plenty of gold digger sluts populating the country but the fact that many married women over looked his character flaws fon sexual issues is a stark wake up call that one must be very careful in attacking him.
Loyalty is blind, blinded by many levels of blurred emotion etc.
So as Glen said it needs to be serious. collective resistance must be objective and reality based and the supporters must be informed that they are going to suffer from him. Not Progressives but they his so called supporters , once they can see thaat they are the victims their Brains may awaken and his support will go soft.
Tread carefully in attacks or we make him a Victim and a Hero to the
masses and assorted set of deplorable followers that operate on a different perception of reality.
of course he ran against a weak candidate who made herself weaker and the media piled on and the russina interference poured lots of gasoline on the fire so the flames of doubts about her grew larger than most likely was real. So it helped him to win.
He knows how to use bad news to his credit to his advantage Street smart – dont mis understand my perspective on him I deplore and hold him in deep disdain and contempt.
A real sophisticated deflection and distortion campaign was waged by the Trumpeters so resistance to him must be calculated carefully or Blow back results .
craig while I am like you and don’t contemplate any type of violence against him, I dis agree with you. In today’s gun culture with guns on every corner and many people feeling left behind and marginalized by the entire system, it is far easier to execute attacks than it once was. Explosives are traded in major cities and many former service men have stashes of such weapons. In fact the FBI has said they fear violence coming from this sector more so than from the Ghetto gangs.
Open carry originating violence would be the ultimate irony if the trumpet was to encounter such dark reality !
Anything is Possible these days
But to withstand the negative policy that may result from his presidency will take the time to study and understand your enemy before you can begin to craft winning strategies to defeat him. One must know their enemy to defeat them. Patience is a useful Virtue !
Silwnt,
” gold digger sluts ? now there’s a rally classy remark !
Marco The truth told bluntly is appropriate for the situation let there be No mistakes or need for Social Political Correctness .
A track record is a track record and the trumpet has long since bragged about these things over 30 years.
Trumpet does not deserve any class respect as he has done nothing over the years to warrant the traditional levels of respect that real accomplished Men or Women of leadership deserve for their positive Social, Business, Political leadership contributions to Society.
As the British Parliament said he is a Buffoon and we will leave out what many say over here about his latest concubine partner…….
The raw Truth may sting but the people that create the Sting must take responsibility for that Sting as they created it over the years.
Perhaps if more Truth was told these types of side show gimmicks would not gain traction etc. We would not be wasting time discussing etc.
The Carnival begins Friday let s see where it goes- who knows
Silent,
For someone who’s so instant on the ‘raw truth’ in others you’re pretty careless with the “truth’ yourself ! A (unanimous) resolution of the British Parliament is very rare. There a only a handful of occasions when the UK Parliament has spoken with a united voice.
No resolution has ever been put forward regarding Donald Trump at all, let alone naming him as a “buffoon” !
The respect shown at the inauguration of a new President, isn’t for the man, but for the office. Just as when a soldier salutes a superior, the salute is for the insignia on the superiors uniform, not the individual.
But none of this matters my point is whether Donald Trump self-destruct’s or not, shouldn’t deflect from our own focus on own goals.
Obsessing over Trump, only reduces the ability of sincere environmentalist advocates.