Cold Fusion: A Subject for Seances, not Sciences?

Glenn Doty writes:

Craig,

I don’t think that cold fusion is a worthy discussion point – as its advocates do not adhere to the common discipline of science.

Whether or not a study can technically be classified within the empirically reductive philosophy that is “science” can be tested with the following questions:

1) Can this issue be investigated empirically? 

2) Is there a relevant theory that this can be linked to?

3) Can this be tested directly?

4) Is there a coherent and explicit chain of reasoning?

5) CAN THESE RESULTS BE REPLICATED? and

6) Is the research disclosed to encourage professional critique from other researchers?

The stuff revolving around “cold fusion” fails on the second, the fourth, the fifth, and the sixth criteria. Hence: not science.

When fully disclosed research that yields reproduceable results that can be coherently explained by relevant theory starts to emerge… then perhaps the physics departments should be compelled to include these studies… but for now it belongs with seances, not sciences.

Glenn:

Thanks. “Seances, not sciences.”  Wow, that’s good; I’ll try to remember that!  And you’re not the only person who’s brought this up to me.

In the context of the survey, I was simply using cold fusion as an example of something that is not mainstream science currently, but could conceivably become so. Having said that, a couple of points:

All mainstream science was once science fiction. As Schopenhauer observed, “All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident.” Of course, that doesn’t make cold fusion true or real, but it prevents me from ruling out ideas simply because they don’t conform to my current mode of thinking on a subject.

James Garfield didn’t die from the bullet wound to the head, but from the infection that occurred from the doctors’ dirty hands and instruments.  According to History House, “Unfortunately for the President, germ theory at the time was still widely ridiculed.”

A few years later, less than a decade before the Wright Brothers, the world’s leading physicist pronounced heavier-than-air vehicles to be theoretically impossible.

Having said all this, we need to see proof here, and our standard for that proof should be very high.

Yet it seems possible that it’s just an intellectual error on our part to assume that fusion can only happen at 10^14 degrees K in 10^-22 seconds.  We’re saying that if we observe a phenomenon that doesn’t meet these criteria, it can’t be fusion.  I’m reminded of the Londoners a few centuries ago who observed large black birds and said, “Well they can’t be swans because they’re not white.”  A few years later, the study of genetics came along and they realized they were looking at black swans.

I’ll leave you with one final idea:  the fact that the world seems to be in such a snit about cold fusion should, I think, make us all quite suspicious – along the lines of “methinks thou dost protest too much.” A good example is the story I quoted here. Why is so much effort being brought to bear to suppress the investigation of a subject that has no value?

 

 

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5 comments on “Cold Fusion: A Subject for Seances, not Sciences?
  1. Therese S. says:

    I agree that cold fusion is unproven, but if people want to continue to try to make it work, I don’t see why they should be stopped. Even if cold fusion turns out to be unworkable, scientific discoveries may result that would be helpful.

  2. Glenn Doty says:

    No-one says “stop all research!”

    But if you have “researchers” acting a lot like charlatans, then it’s best not to give them much more interest then you would your stage magicians…

    You wouldn’t call upon the physics department to research translocation after watching a stage magician, would you?

    The problem is the complete lack of relationship to relevant theory. No-one is saying that fusion cannot take place at room temperature. We KNOW it does, that’s why tritium has a half-life. But someone like Rossi is taking two of the most stable isotopes in the universe and saying that: because they are next to each other, they suddenly start experiencing nuclear fusion at ~10^100 times their normal rate. This requires a complete rejection of all that we understand about nuclear processes.
    Furthermore, the only “evidence” that is offered is demonstrations in special pre-prepared labs that Rossi and only Rossi are allowed to set up. He has not chosen to allow some other lab to take a sealed “reactor” to test it in a lab THEY set up…

    It’s not science. The practitioners have no more in common with scientists then the tea party. It may BE possible to somehow induce safe fusion at lower temperatures… and when such is reported by people who act like scientists I’ll take it seriously… but what we’re seeing now looks like fraud and sounds absurd. We should probably leave it at that.

    • Craig Shields says:

      They don’t say, “Stop all research!” But they did (in the case of Union Oil and Cal Tech) say, “If you continue your research you will not receive another dime in support from us.” Not much difference there as far as I can see.

      • Glenn Doty says:

        Craig,

        That’s not the situation that you had reported with Cal Tech… you stated that a person was willing to make a donation if their physics department opened up a research field dedicated to LENR.

        But the last time the entire idea of cold fusion was treated SCIENTIFICALLY was back in the days of Pons and Fleishman, when several labs – including Cal Tech – sought to replicate the experimental results claimed. They couldn’t, nor could the reported results be replicated anywhere. Hence, it was “debunked” scientifically.

        Now some independent donor is asking them to question their scientific inquiry due to non-scientific exhibitions… The fact that they aren’t interested doesn’t seem to indicate a conspiracy so much as a solid conviction that their sciences should be led by scientific inquiry. I can respect that.

  3. Duke Brooks says:

    Fleischmann and Pons must be very disappointed… If they’re still alive, that is. I think it was around ’88 or ’89 when they came out with their room-temperature fusion “experiment.” It was VERY exciting for about two weeks, though!