Talking Renewable Energy on a Conservative Radio Talk-Show

An old friend from high school has invited me to be a guest on his radio show which takes a conservative perspective on the topics of the day.  I’ll be on for an hour to talk to him and entertain callers’ questions about my views on renewable energy, electric transportation, and sustainability more generally.  When he called to schedule the interview, he promised that the talk wouldn’t be combative, i.e., he won’t call me a communist, a bleeding heart, etc.

I had to choke back my laughter when we announced these conditions: “You don’t know the hundreds of other similar situations in which I’ve found myself over the years.  Most of the talk radio shows that have had me on have callers from hell, and a few of them were hosted by right-wing attack dogs themselves.  There is literally nothing you could say or ask that could possibly offend me.”

The position of a conservative-minded show, of course, is that government is bad, and that unfettered private enterprise is good – and those who know me understand that I‘m not wholly opposed to this viewpoint; I’ve been a business owner almost my entire adult life, and I understand the value of taking responsibility for my own condition in life.  I simply think the situation isn’t as black and white as the ideologues paint it to be.

In the particular case of this upcoming radio show, I’m guessing that the concept is that renewable energy is receiving subsidies, therefore it’s part of the plan of our president (a Kenyan-born Muslim socialist) to cripple private enterprise through ever-increasing regulation, and, ultimately, to get as many Americans as possible on food stamps.  OK, I’m oversimplifying.  Maybe.  We’ll see.

But I thought readers might be interested in a few of my “talking points,” starting with a few of our government’s intrusion into transportation:

• Yes, government is pushing industry for better fuel economy and alternative fuels; it’s playing a role in the transportation of the 21st Century, just like it did in the 20th, when it subsidized domestic oil exploration, built the roads and highways, and consistently deployed the military to maintain access to oil from foreign sources.

• We shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that our tax-payers are still writing checks in the amount of tens of billions of dollars annually to the oil companies, the most profitable industry in the history of the known universe, to make that business even more profitable. While the American voter hates this arrangement by a factor of approximately 70-30, he’s completely powerless to change it. There’s a word for that: corruption.  It’s the corruptive force of huge corporations, unchecked and unregulated, that has produced this outrageous ethical, economic, and environmental catastrophe.

• The involvement from government hasn’t been the tragedy that the right wing promotes.  Are our listeners aware that radar systems that came from government have virtually eliminated fatal accidents on our commercial airlines?  The annual risk of being killed in a plane crash for the average American is about 1 in 11 million, as compared with the annual risk of being killed in a motor vehicle crash, which is more than 2000 times greater (approximately 1 in 5000).

• And speaking of the government and the automobile industry, how many of us know the source of every single safety advancement, from seat belts in 1961 to anti-lock braking, air-bags, and the many dozens of other technologies that save more lives each year (though each one was fought tooth-and-nail by the auto industry itself)?

• Whence came the effort to put a man on the moon and began to explore vast regions of the universe?

• Taking the subject of transportation back down to Earth, have we considered where the Internet came from, that provides us our real-time traffic maps, our roadside assistance, the backbone for deployment of emergency medical services, not to mention the hundreds of other benefits we count on every day?

• Let’s conclude this by saying that government’s encouraging progressive concepts in transportation — pragmatic concepts that have proven themselves thousands of times over for their effectiveness in protecting your life and providing the safekeeping of your loved ones — are not entirely bad.

From there, let’s branch out into a few ideas on the larger topic of what’s happening regarding the destruction of our ecosystems and government’s responsibility to take action to mitigate the disaster, i.e., to use common sense and rationality to restrain the private sector:

• Even the ultra-right-wing Cato Institute acknowledges the concept of anthropogenic climate change.  Gone are the days when people who wish to be taken seriously can say that climate change is a hoax.  So where do we go from there?

• Some say that our civilization is not duty-bound to take preventative measures against climate change because we don’t have adequate visibility into the future.  This does not hold water with me.  Yes, we could be saved by a great number of things, e.g., a new technology or some unforeseeable event in the cosmos.  But society’s depending on the unknown to halt the destruction of our environment is not sane, responsible behavior.

• Some argue that, because the greatest damage from climate change will happen many decades hence, our imperative to mitigate that damage itself comes decades hence.  This is a similarly unsupportable position; it has no more validity than an oncologist who discovers a small tumor on my lung but does not advise me to stop smoking, since the greatest part of the damage has not yet materialized.

• I ’m guessing that my host, a believer as he is in free-market capitalism, will assert that there exists a self-correcting mechanism that minimizes environmental damage on the basis that capitalism abhors waste.  Again, this is specious.  What capitalists abhor is wasting money, not CO2, or small but lethal quantities of heavy metals.  The choice here isn’t between wasting harmful byproducts of fossil fuels or not wasting them; it’s between cleaning up the waste or not cleaning it up.  We have adequate proof over the past two centuries that, when industrialists are unregulated, they most often choose not to clean up after themselves.

Lastly, I appeal to patriotism.  If you really care about America, and I’m sure the vast majority of the show’s listeners do, here are a few things to consider:

• Our addiction to oil causes us to borrow half a billion dollars a day and send it to our enemies.  Our economic solvency declines at the same time that the strength and power of terrorists increases.  If you understand this, and if you care about our national security, I think you’re at a loss to defend an energy policy rooted in oil.

• The entire rest of the developed world understands something that we apparently do not: advanced solutions to energy are the defining industry in the 21st Century.  We, as a nation, can pretend that alternative energy is a hoax, that it’s an anti-capitalist plot, but doing so is nothing less than an invitation to China to hasten its ascent into the position as the leading economic (and military?) power.  Why on Earth are we following this outrageously stupid and masochistic course?  Again, it’s corruption.  Our government is owned by the oil companies, and guess what?  You might care about American jobs and the quality of life for the 300 million of us, most of whom come from families who made sacrifices to keep all of us safe and free.  But they don’t, as long as they’re maintaining their stranglehold on the world economy.  Any real American should be mad as hell about this.

• So what are the few remaining open issues?  It really all boils down to this:  In the absence of informed, enlightened people like you, dear reader, the private sector, if left alone, will happily suck the last molecule of crude out of the ground and mine the last lump of coal, and sell it to us.  And, just as happily, we’ll burn it to produce what we feel is our God-given right: cheap, abundant energy.  Yes, the consequences will be catastrophic, but no one wants to hear that.

• It was less than a year ago when the debate on the subject in the 2012 U.S. presidential election included only two ideas: Obama’s “all of the above” strategy – make no enemies.  Coal, nuclear, gas, renewables – let’s regard them as equals. Romney’s ridicule of anything but the very least-cost energy solution (fossil fuels) and the idea that we have some sort of obligation to protect our environment and long-term survival. The popular vote was very close (50%-47%), i.e., between the two, they received over 97% of the ballots cast.

So is my viewpoint popularly accepted?  Hardly.  But it is what it is.  If this guy wants to attack me, he won’t be the first, nor the last.

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9 comments on “Talking Renewable Energy on a Conservative Radio Talk-Show
  1. “Lastly, I appeal to patriotism. If you really care about America, and I’m sure the vast majority of the show’s listeners do, here are a few things to consider:

    • Our addiction to oil causes us to borrow half a billion dollars a day and send it to our enemies. Our economic solvency declines at the same time that the strength and power of terrorists increases. If you understand this, and if you care about our national security, I think you’re at a loss to defend an energy policy rooted in oil.”

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    You might mention that our military understands that we are feeding our
    enemy and that this has always been a failed military strategy and while they seek to minimize this, congress is forcing them to continue down the current path and thwarting their efforts to stop doing this.

  2. pierre says:

    You state right wingers now acknowledge being wrong about the science of climate change. Will they also acknowledge how wrong they are about being dogmatic on capitalism?

  3. Bruce H. Peters. M. D. says:

    The hydrocarbon energy regime is in reality a hydrogen energy system ( CH4 natural gas gets most of its power from the four hydrogen s , not the carbon ) WITH A CARBON PROBLEM. We’re not going to overthrow that entrenched and rich system so why not work with them to provide transportable and storable energy carriers with more H above ground and more C left underground . Improved methods of oil recovery leaving more carbon rich high ends in the hole and doing some of the first stage refining beneath the surface where carbon and C02 can be safely stored, and adopting a hydrogen carrier system…like, say, ammonia which leaves only water and inert N2 when it gives up its power might help. Just sayin.

    • Victoria Marugg says:

      Bruce… Why? Why fight so hard to keep burning. Your chemistry is impressive, but isn’t it a waste of time? Throwing more mind power and resources at “stop gap measures” like biodiesel, hydrocarbon, natural and unnatural gas, oil generating organisms, not only wastes time, but opens more doors to the finely honed, get-rich-quick American entrepreneurs to in trench themselves in more backward and destructive systems… note…Fracking! Note Fukushima, Mile Island, Chernobyl! (What success stories those turned out to be!) DO NOT WORK WITH “THEM.” Why do you concede to what-has-turned-out-to-be-evil so easily? “We’re not going to overthrow that entrenched and rich system…” Maybe the trick is to TURN the system, NOT “overthrow” it. After all, the oil industry holds hundreds of key patents in alternative power solutions, that they have bought up in order to stifle competition over the last 70 years. Whenever they want, they can take control. Perhaps its time to BEG them or FORCE them to do it NOW. Quickly. (oil boycott… walk you kid to school. Truckers, stay home and watch football for the next three months. Everyone buy a Leaf!) For the sake of the planet-as-we-know-it, encourage the greed-brains to retool themselves, and after a relatively slight dip in profits, they can still hold the power and money reins… at least then, they won’t be driving us down a super highway to destruction. Granted, because they are greedily and fiercely combative on this issue, they don’t deserve to reap the benefits of green power, but perhaps using their own greed as an incentive, they might make the change themselves…. Big business is already starting to erode the efficiency of wind and solar power, so we know there is potential to entice the Big Greedies. Shell Solar? Union Hydro? Exxon Tide-Capture? Perhaps this would be better than belly-up defeat…

      • Bruce H. Peters M D says:

        Victoria. I’m much more with you than your opponent. Please note that burning hydrogen leaves only pure water behind. The world can make further use for that. Ammonia, applied and manged correctly, is a necessity and not a pollutant. Almost 50% of the protein in both of our muscles, and the very lives of nearly that portion of humanity, come from nitrogen fertilizers now coming only from petroleum energy sources. Revolution sounds attractive but the Arab Spring must give you some pause about employing that tactic. The petroleum industry knows they have a problem but need to make money so need to have a clear pathway to profit and would welcome climate benefit as a companion . Don’t give up on science and chemistry. Don’t give up on wind and solar either. But recognize that fuel storage and transport is needed to make them work. Hydrogen, made more stable by being attached to nitrogen as ammonia fits this bill. It gives back no carbon soot or C02 when you later heat and propel yourself about. It leaves you with water to drink and dinitrogen ( which is 78.1% of your next breath ) to enjoy. Dream and breathe on. And be well.

  4. Phil Manke says:

    Very eye-opening article, Craig. And I agree with Mr. McGowan above. We seem to be allowing the decisions of some major corporations dictate the demise of the USA for their profits. How insane that is! The widespread use of solar and wind power alone could easily allow energy independence here with plenty other RE resources, and to aid the many countries we have been exploiting and maligning with our imperialistic military beliefs and support.
    ………..A mind at peace will extend to others like itself. Likewise, a mind in fear, guilt, or self imagined lack, which fosters greed. It appears that higher order communication and remembering who we are is the new frontier. I pray we not pass it by unnaccepted.

  5. mark clayton says:

    Remember Craig, you are our voice in the wilderness. We have your back.

    • Ha! I always appreciate your kind words, though I dispute that I’m a voice in the wilderness; it’s getting far too crowded to count this as a “wilderness.” Every day, it seems more and more like Manhattan. In any case, thanks again, Mark; I appreciate it.

  6. Leo M. Schwaiger says:

    What difference does it make if one drives an ICE auto, a hybrid, or an EV to the grocery, restaurant, or fast food establishment if the fuel they buy and put into their primary mode of conveyance, their body, is not the best fuel for their cells which will determine how well the body will function? The cells don’t care about the laws man passes, they react to physiologic and biologic law. It makes no difference if a person is a Democrat, Republican, Independent or any other “designation” or is conservative or liberal.

    More pollution is produced by the raising and production of food than is produced by the entire transportation sector–cars, trucks, planes, ships, ertc. Most people don’t know, care, or want to hear about how they live will affect them personally and less about how it will affect others and the planet. It has been said that if we continue to live as we do we will need two planets to provide the necessities of life.

    Life is our most precious asset. Without it we have no use or need for all the many products which are manufactured and sold. People must take more interest in how what they do affects them and others.